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Post by ShadownetZero on Jul 6, 2010 17:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by Lady_Earlgray on Jul 6, 2010 20:14:47 GMT -5
... That's... Well that was nice. LOL Transient -- forgive my derp but isn't that just a nice word for a bum? If so, then how did he get into a pre-screening?
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Post by ceredron on Jul 7, 2010 9:59:21 GMT -5
too many girls I know are in love with Edward or Jacob or both... and I don't like it. I mean, interest in the occult isn't a problem, but interest in "twilight lore" is just
despicable
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Post by chzrm3 on Jul 7, 2010 10:39:09 GMT -5
It isn't twilight that bothers me. I've never watched it, but I'm okay with there being a movie that targets teenage girls and weird guys that breaks the typical romantic comedy model.
What really pisses me off is how many other people have jumped on this band-wagon. I can't count the number of TV shows about vampires now, where 5 years ago that just didn't exist. I mean, vampires are alright, but they really aren't that great.... and yet it seems like any new show coming out that has some sort of fantasy element is all about vampires. It's too bad - I'd love to see a well-done HBO show about mages or elves or something living in the 21st century, but no. It's ALWAYS vampires. Ugh.
From a purely jealous standpoint, though, it does piss me off that this incredibly popular movie series spawned from such a horrible book series. I've never read the books, but I've read blogs and articles panning them, and that writing's just embarrassing. Again - so many books about fantasy stuff, why did it have to be this garbage series?
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Post by ShadownetZero on Jul 7, 2010 14:56:14 GMT -5
I don't give a crap whether preteen girls like to read horrible writing and watching terrible movies.
WHAT DOES bother me is the continued devaluation of the term "Vampire". Vampires are cool. Twilight vampires are not vampires. Sucking blood is just one thing that makes a vampire a vampire (and even then, there's only been one instance of blood sucking in the movies that wasn't a flashback).
I was never a fan of werewolves, but I guess the same thing holds. Jacob isn't a werewolf. He's an animorph.
waits for noobies to go "what's an animorph?!?!?" Crap I'm old.....
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Post by chzrm3 on Jul 7, 2010 17:25:48 GMT -5
<-- I read all the Animorph books until they got into dinosaur times, then I was like "christ I can't deal with this anymore." Still, good times.
But yeah, I've always associated vampires with the following:
- Diseased - Conflicted - Badass
From what I can tell, the vampires in twilight aren't really diseased (they sparkle? wtf?) and they definitely aren't badass... and their conflicts aren't "man, is it okay for me to eat this innocent kid so I can survive", it's "is this girl beautiful enough for me to love her?!?!?!?"
I really wish that stupid author (who I just wanna emphasize is really really bad at writing) had called them elves instead of vampires. It's not like the plot hinges on his vampirism, it's all about how he's this mystical, gorgeous creature or something. Why not just make it an elf? Nobody cares about elf, the word "elf" means everything from Lord of the Rings to Santa's Little Helpers.
But naw, it had to be a vampire.
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Post by ceredron on Jul 7, 2010 17:51:17 GMT -5
but you guys know, it's like when the rest of the nerd/geekdom found out about D&D, the whole "holy fuck what a fantastic world" syndrome you get in middle school (usually middle school) and you become enchanted by the possibilities such a magical world entails... except instead of being geared towards nerdy glasses-wearing middle school boys it's geared at middle-high school girls by introducing the romance factor. Fucking ridiculous.
Also, it's amazing how girls love it, I have this quote lying around - "So, the next generation of young women are currently flocking to see a female lead starring in a movie by a female director based on a bestselling book by a female author, and in this movie the main character wants to become completely submissive and self-sacrificing for a male." ~ On Twilight
I found that on /lit/ or /sci/ or traditional games or some board on 4ch.
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Post by ShadownetZero on Jul 7, 2010 18:25:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lady_Earlgray on Jul 7, 2010 20:54:54 GMT -5
8U Honestly, S. Meyer has no idea what she's doing. Not only has she emasculated what was an already campy sort of monster (Sorry but vampires never really scared me, neither did werewolves) into a sparkling mass of cardboard personalities with the ability to beat people into unconsciousness through sexual prowess alone ... I honestly don't see why girls gobble this up. In fact, I'm kind of scared. xD; Bella isn't a rolemodel, not at all, Edward isn't the perfect boyfriend ever (Doesn't he like hurt her a lot), and Jacob isn't any better with his obsession, possessiveness, and his sudden desire for her own daughter in the final book -- I think you need to be severely deluded to actually think of ANY of this as some form of true love. O__o; Actually, I just think that the tweens and teens and egads the middle aged women who seem to enjoy this are in it for the apparent "ETERNAL BOND" that the books seem to advertise. Eternal pain and enforcing of bad stereotypes is more like it but MEH whatever, it hooked on. ANd now there's vampires and werewolves EVERYWHERE in the media. :U Everywhere. It's getting dumb. Maybe we can try to make our own werewolf and vampire series and bank in on the bandwagon and get rich hahaha ... But for all the crap that these books represent, you gotta admit all of the shit that happens in book four MUST be made into a movieHere's my favorite from book four and the apparent WTF the entire thing is:
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Post by chzrm3 on Jul 7, 2010 22:44:42 GMT -5
Is there really sex in twilight? God I'm so old, I find that totally inappropriate. (Seriously, little girls watch this shit, you can't have the main character being fucked into unconsciousness.)
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Post by Lady_Earlgray on Jul 7, 2010 23:08:08 GMT -5
Yes, there's really sex in Twilight - if you consider poetic mushy purple prose to be sex then yes, it is there. But only concentrated within the horrible confines that is the fourth book
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Post by ShadownetZero on Jul 9, 2010 3:44:37 GMT -5
Series is completely appropriate for it's target audience.
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Post by chzrm3 on Jul 10, 2010 8:59:03 GMT -5
Is that the Swedish kid we watched?
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